Betrayal Trauma Recover Podcast Episode:

"The Best Betrayal Trauma Resources For Women"

You deserve the BEST resources for betrayal trauma as you navigate your journey to emotional safety, healing, and peace. Learn more.
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  • Why Won’t My Husband Fight For Our Marriage? – Kirsten’s Story
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  • When Your In-Laws Are Emotionally Abusive Too – Tanya’s Story
  • 5 Ways To Spot Narcissistic Abuse – Rachel’s Story
  • Voicing The Agony of Betrayal Trauma Through Music – Ralynne’s Story
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  • How Do I Know If My Husband Is Abusive? – Coach Jo’s Story
  • 14 Emotional Abuse Survivor Stories
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  • Can A Husband Sexually Abuse His Wife? – Sandy’s Story
  • When Your Narcissist Ex Won’t Leave You Alone – Lee’s Story
  • Can In-Home Separation Help Me? – Lindsay’s Story
  • Women Say THIS Is The Best Support For Betrayal Trauma – Victim Stories
  • The 6 Stages Of Healing From Hidden Abuse
  • Porn Is Abuse: Here’s Why – Kathleen’s Story

    Transcript

    You deserve the best betrayal trauma resources as you navigate the deeply personal journey toward emotional safety and healing.

    For women just discovering their husband’s sex addiction, as you find a resource if it doesn’t work for you, move on. Some resources can be more traumatizing that helpful.

    1. What Are The Best Betrayal Trauma Recovery Resources For Women?

    Learn More about BTR Group Sessions

    2. When It Comes Betrayal Trauma, You’re The Best Resource

    That you could either get into an individual session or get into a group session that you never had to call your therapist and get the sad news that they couldn’t see you for two weeks, or that you had to be on some wait list or something like that. Just wanted to make sure that women had a safe place to go.

    It’s OKAY if it Takes Time to Understand Betrayal Trauma


    When Anne first started BTR, she believed it would help speed up the process of getting help in the abuse cycle. Her goal was to shorten the time between discovering a partner’s porn habit and recognizing the abuse, allowing women to set boundaries right away. She wanted to ensure that no woman had to endure 10 or 20 years of such experiences. However, Anne found that most women do go through that stage. If someone is wondering, “Why didn’t I see it sooner? Why didn’t I act?”—Anne observes that it’s almost like one has to experience it. It’s rare for someone to jump from finding porn on a partner’s phone to setting hardcore boundaries immediately. If someone did, Anne considers them a miracle and invites them to email her to be featured on the podcast.

    Well, what I have found is that most women have to go through that stage. And so for women who are like, oh, I’m so stupid. Why didn’t I see it before? Why didn’t I do that? Almost like you had to go through that. No woman goes straight from I found porn on his phone to the hardcore boundary usually. I mean, maybe if you’re the miracle out there, email me. We will have you on the podcast.

    “This Podcast is to Educate Women”

    (01:42):
    That would be awesome. So then I realized, no, this podcast is to educate women. We’ll just speak our truth and wherever they are is okay. Yeah. Take you where you are and we’ll just grow together from whatever stage we’re in and hopefully in the process. Number one is safety, and number two is that post-traumatic growth that people talk about a lot being able to grow, and I feel like I’m finally getting to that stage. I mean, I’ve changed a lot and grown a lot, but I also now I’m like, oh my word. I’m wearing makeup.

    There’s so many things now that I’m working toward, and it’s so exciting. Now you’re at a really messy, tough, messy stage right now. You are separating as a boundary for repeated lies and porn use. You don’t know what the outcome of your boundary setting is going to be. Absolutely right. I believe your best chance for a happy future, and I also believe it’s your husband’s best chance to get healthy. But how are you feeling now in the context of your own personal growth?

    Betrayal Trauma is Painful – It’s Going to Hurt

    Lindsay (02:52):
    One thing that was truly powerful was just remembering, not that I didn’t know before, but remembering that this is painful and it’s going to be painful. Part of the unmanageability is if I am stabbed by a knife, I can’t control whether that hurts. It’s going to hurt. And so letting myself feel those emotions in a real way. That’s awful. It’s awful to sit there and baw and cry and have a big pile of Kleenexes.

    Anne (03:25):
    We’ve all been there. It

    Lindsay (03:27):
    Feels super,

    Anne (03:28):
    The worst. You feel like all of the liquid in your entire body has come out your nose. Yes, yes.

    “I don’t have to be perfect at this. It’s okay for me to be messy and raw and in pain right now.”

    Lindsay

    Lindsay (03:35):
    The worst. It’s awful. And none of it is going to be fun, and it’s not going to be easy, and I’m going to make mistakes. I mean, yes, I’m holding a boundary, but oh my word, I have no clue if this is the right thing, the right answer, and that’s okay. I don’t have to be perfect at this, and it’s okay for me to be messy and raw and in pain right now.

    When Betrayal Trauma Victims Have Little or No Support

    Anne (04:03):
    For me, it’s been years of pain and unresolved things that I still can’t fix, and they’re still here. I still can’t fix them. There’s one woman who I talked to on the phone, and her situation was bleak. She had no support, nobody understood what she was going through. She was actually living with her and they didn’t understand. So everything was really bad. I just prayed with her on the phone. I was like, you can get a coach, you can get a therapist or whatever. That still, your situation’s so bad that you need help from God. And she believed in God, so that wasn’t a stretch for her.

    So we said a prayer and she emailed me a little bit later and said, I haven’t had any huge miracle happen. I told her, there were so many times where I was screaming and yelling and jumping up and down and saying, send help now I need help now. I need something to change now. And nobody came and nothing happened. But things have happened slowly over time, and that has been really cool to watch, and I can’t wait to see what’s going to happen 10 years from now. It makes it kind of exciting knowing that it’s all working for my good and having that faith that it will, even if I can’t see it.

    What are the Best Betrayal Trauma Recovery Resources For Women?

    Lindsay (05:27):
    Right. So I had a question for you. So let’s say that there is somebody that’s out there and they’re totally new. I mean, this is their first introduction to anything recovery-related.

    Anne (05:39):
    This podcast right now?

    Lindsay (05:42):
    Yes. What resources are available and if the resources that are available to them aren’t healthy, what can they look for in what they have available to make it still work for them?

    “You’re in the right place now.”

    Anne (05:54):
    Yeah, I would say I, you’re in the right place now. So if this is your first time and this is the first thing, and you’re like what resource you are at it, BTR is now I created it. So I’m a little biased, but the best resource there is for victims of Betrayal. And the reason I feel confident about saying that is because women have gone to lots of other places and then come back and said, well, this wasn’t safe for me.

    But let’s say a woman tries something and it’s not right. She goes to a COSA group, for example, or a different 12 step group, and it’s like, no, this doesn’t feel right. This isn’t safe. So I would say that’s why I built BTR, knowing that you’re looking for a place that sees it as a victim and perpetrator situation. So someone said to me the other day, how do you feel about the drama triangle, about the drama triangle, victim, perpetrator, and rescuer?

    Books As Resources for Betrayal Trauma Victims

    (06:52):
    In this context, there is no triangle, and same thing with people. It takes two to tango or both sides of the story. There is one truth, and for me, for nine months, I prayed every day to know what the truth of my situation was, and I was really open to knowing exactly what that was, so that if it is me, I want to know. And what I discovered was you are in an abusive relationship. That was the truth of my situation.

    So being educated about what abuse looks like, what manipulation looks like is really important. So for someone just starting out, I’d say Read Lundy Bancroft’s book, Why Does He Do That? Absolutely. Like yesterday or tomorrow or tomorrow morning, really early. Check it out from your library.

    The BTR.ORG Podcast is a Great Resource for Betrayal Trauma Victims

    (07:49):
    And so with books to read that are inexpensive, we have our books page. Our books page is a compilation of all those books, and most of them you can get at your local library. Even on audiobook. Which is awesome. Listen to why does he do that on audiobook and then read it. That’s what I did. I listened on audio and then listen again, and guess what else is free? This podcast.

    I was just recently reading the, I hadn’t done it before. The ratings on iTunes. I was like, oh, they’re so nice. They were saying, listening to your podcast has done more for me than 10 years of therapy. I mean, just stuff like that. And I was like, really? I’m so glad. That’s the whole point of it. Healing from abuse is a long term, emotionally, physically, and financially expensive endeavor. It is worth it though. So whatever resource you choose, even if it’s just reading books, even if the only thing you do is go in your closet and pray, and that’s your quote, recovery plan, it will be worth it.

    Lindsay (08:59):
    Yeah.

    Are 12-Step Groups Healthy Resources for Betrayal Trauma Victims?

    Anne (08:59):
    Something that concerns me regarding 12 Step Groups as a resource for betrayal trauma is the way that some women are made to feel responsible for their husband’s choices or the healthiness of the marriage, even though they are not, and have not been the abusive one. Here’s an example.

    Anne (09:16):
    When I went, women said, when I started coming here, that’s what made the difference to my husband. And I just was like, stop saying that. The other thing I thought was interesting is that in that stage, they thought their husband was doing, well, I’m not saying one particular person, but I’ve seen this happen a lot of times. And then later they find out that he wasn’t even in a good stage at all and they thought he was. So that’s another thing that’s difficult about this journey is that really understanding what recovery safe person really looks like takes a lot of time.

    Here’s to YOU Feeling Empowered to Seek the Right Resources for YOU

    Lindsay (09:50):
    So much time. I mean, even for me, I’m still developing my understanding of what that looks like. I gather all the resources I can put ’em in one Apple note.

    Anne (10:00):
    Lindsay is a very intense researcher. Yes, I am. I would say I’m very organized. I am

    Lindsay (10:05):
    Working on letting that go. It is still very much a work in progress.

    Anne (10:12):
    Well, I’m grateful that you felt safe enough here. Number one, just with me as my friend, that means a lot to me. But also to share your story here, to help women throughout the world know what is the best route for them to take. And again, any route is fine. Anything that works is great, because there are so many women in this situation. There’s no shortage of victims, and unfortunately there is a shortage of resources.

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      4 Comments

      1. Kim Allen

        Thank you for this ministry.

        Reply
        • Anne Blythe

          You’re welcome! I’m so glad you found us:). Our main goal is to provide emotional safety for abusive men who are abusive through their lies, manipulation, porn use, infidelity, etc.

          Reply
      2. Bev

        Omg! Yes while increasing boundaries it’s very messy. I can so relate. Right now there’s no money so I’m just following along here. It’s extremely hard to keep my boundary and stay positive (I have children in the house) when he’s home in the evenings. He sleeps in the basement while I’m upstairs and when he phone comes out we leave the room however I am eating my dinner before he comes home because once he’s home he’s on his phone texting whatever porn stripper from Instagram and he’s like a teenager again. I become nauseated and then can’t eat my dinner. Kids worry about me.

        Reply
      3. Louise

        Thank you Anne
        Your podcasts have saved my life.
        This is the best support network on betrayal trauma.

        Reply

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